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Saturday, November 22, 2008

people of the steppe

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  believing that, at the heart of secret societies, can be found 'the people of the steppe' :  avars and scythians and alans and turks and mongols and huns and magyars and khazars  and sarmatians   ................  comments to gemmm@netzero.com




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9 6 9 /  the 21st century Ossetians seem to be descendents of the alans... alauni... asu ... halani





9 7 0 /  other names for the alans are 'asu' or 'alauni' or 'halani' or 'asses' or 'iass' or 'jass' or 'burtas'



9 7 1 /  the alans and the gelae must cerrtainly be the same people {see note 972}.   Both derived from the massagatae .  We know the alans {aka 'halanui' or 'alauni'} became jews .. .  . . . particularly the thousands of alans who lived among the khazars.  So, the gelae became jews.  The alans, after leaving paganism behind, first became russian orthodox christians. 

But, MOST of the alans left the christian denomination to convert to judaism.
brook  'the jews of khazaria.'    http://www.dailygotham.com/mole333/blog/historyofaflashpointossetiaandthecaucasus


http://www.allempires.com/Forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=27815  .... timeline for alans




9 7 2 /    Etymologists would see that 'gelae' and the 'alans' are strongly bonded. 'h' and 'g' {or 'j'} and 'k' or the 'k' sound are all interchangeable.
'head' is polish 'glowa' is  german 'kopf' or greek 'kephale'
'cock' is latin 'gallus' or german 'hahn'
'hunt' is german 'jagen' or portugese 'cacar'
'grass' is portugese 'capim' or french 'herbe'
'hen' is portugese 'galhinia' or polish 'kura'
'heart' is polish 'glab' or french 'coeur'

the rubric 'alans' ior 'halani' or 'alauni' was assuredly spelled with a 'chi' to give us 'kalans' or 'chalans' or 'xalans.'   We have 'alan' meaning 'stone' {in addition to 'alan' meaning 'iron'  ...  ... see note 979}.   All these terms mesh with greek 'kalhlex' for the small pebbles ancients used for counting - - - a primitive form of abacus.  Secret society nobs care only for money... as when they used kalhlex to tote up finacial sums.  'hagalo' proto-germanic for 'pebble.'  indo-european 'kaghlo' for 'stone' or 'pebble.'  latin 'calculus' for 'stone' or 'pebble'

French 'grele' equals english 'hale.'  english 'hale' for pebble-like ice pellets.  von Eschenbach has the holy grail as a stone {pebble}.  'free mason' in german is 'freimauer,' literally a 'freeman who is a builder of walls.'  walls made of stone.  'alan' means 'stone,' so the alans-gelae ARE the 'holy grele' ['holy stone'} or 'holy grail.' ... http://www.godlikeproductions.com/forum1/message589695/pg1





9 7 3 / a number of 'bloodline' families of europe have steppe folks in family tree. Britain's Queen Elizabeth II features Atilla the Hun among her forebears.... via Princess Mary {May} of Teck. If Mary was part of this lineage, so too must other 2009 royals and members of upper aristocracy  18th century Habsburg Maria Theresa boasted of having both Atilla and Genghis Khan as ancestors.



9 7 4 / for those who believe sufism PRE--dates islam, one fellow has suggested that the Sarmoun brotherhood of Afghanistan and Tibet were the founders of sufi movement. 'sarmoun' equals 'bees.' See Booth 'the secret history of the world'

- -- 9 7 5 / this order of chivalry had 'allen' as its motto http://books.google.com/books?id=Pv1RUpw5ss4C&pg=PA273&lpg=PA273&dq=%22order+of+the+golden+shield%22+and+allen&source=bl&ots=2o4OZa8CPm&sig=wc2F5gdTwtnG_Kb-9-IgbkhSIpM&hl=en&ei=VKABSvTJO4fGMsjQvNkH&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=1

we don't believe that gibberish re 'allen' overlapping with french 'allons.' More likely term is related to our 'alan' chums. Founded by louis II de bourbon {'louis' meaning 'wolf' of course... see # 977) ... Order of the golden shield - - - escu d'or. Late 14th century.




9 7 6 / . chauvinsitic ukranian nationalists write of the so-called 'trypillian' culture of the ukraine as being the end--all and be--all of world civilization... ... so reports wilson in his book, 'the ukrainians.' ............ http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cucuteni-Trypillian_culture

The trypillian culture also known as 'cucuteni' to the romanians. Apparently the ukraine was once known as 'oriiana' or 'arrata' or 'trypillia.'

the ukrainian nationalists ALLEGE that the trypillians (4,000 to 2,700 bce} were the first metal-workers . . . . . .that the trypillians came up with the first calendar. . . . that the trypillians developed the first alphabet, with the phoenecians merely 'spreading' the letters to the rest of humanity

ukranian nationalists have trypillians establishing the sumerian civilization, trypillians building the ziggaruts..... nationalists believe Jesus' ancestors were from galicia {western ukraine}... ... CLAIMING that buddha and zarathustra had forebears who were trypillians.




9 7 7 / - -- -. ..... overlapping with WOLF references are very large ALANO hunting dogs of alans. ... now extinct. "lewis' equals 'wolf.' In the craft, a 'lewis' is son of a mason. WE have heckethorne noting that ALL secret societies intertwine with tribe of benjamin, the wolf being benjaminites' emblem. Alano dogs probably were a lot larger and fiercer than wolves.


9 7 8 / endrey in 'sons of nimrod,' writes of sizeable iranian settlements in sw hungary in middle ages.


9 7 9 / 'alan' means 'iron/ ... alans 'formed from a melange of different peoples'... bachrach 'history of the alans in the west'... a alans venerated a naked sword thrust into earth as in excalibur ..



9 8 0 / HSI LIAO dynasty... 'black cathay'... a blend of 'mongol, turkish, and chinese element' morgan 'the mongols'



........ 9 8 1 / 'koka mongols' or 'blue mongols' brings us back to the 'blue lodge' imagery implicit in freemasonry.




9 8 2 / syllable 'hu' { as in 'huns' and 'hungarians'} suggested as the lost word of masons http://www.authorhouse.com/bookstore/ItemDetail~bookid~47065.aspx



- - - - 9 8 3 / Assorted researchers aver that Sufi brotherhoods were important in the fashioning of freemasonry. It hs been postulated that the Kwajagan masters bond the mongols to the sufi movement. http://jonesthought.wordpress.com/category/esoteric/



9 8 4 / - the green chintamani STONE of the east has been seen as the holy grail http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sociopolitica/sociopol_shambahla11.htm e .. ... ... - -



9 8 5 / 'orthodox christian asu {alans} . . . formed part of the mongol army in china . . . orthodox christian clans are mentioned in 1318 by brother pellegrini, bishop of zaytun in china, as living with their families on the chinese coast opposite formosa'



9 8 6 / from a.d. 650, ALANS of the caucasus came under suzereinity of KHAZARS



9 8 7 / in 1260, 'damascus was entered by the mongols and their allies, ALLEGEDLY headed by three christians ... bohemund of antioch, king het'um of cilician armenia, and helegu's nestorian general, kit--buqa'


9 8 8 / the year 1287 saw mongol ruler arghun sent nestorian monk rabban sauma to europe. the pope handed him relics to take home to persia. sauma officiated at london mass attended by england's henry first.... budge in 'the monks of kublai khan'



..... . . 9 8 9 / ..... massagetae ... name means 'fish' ... ... matriarchal society ... practiced cannibalism ... are they same as scythians ?



9 9 0 / "in the language of all ancient steppe-dwellers, 'white' means 'western.'" ... ... ... 'the sarmatians' by sulimirski


9 9 1 / A R G I P P A E I ... ANOTHER EARLY EARLY BUNCH A LA MASAGETAE..... business with caves and grottos. the argippaei were also cannibals... also matriarchal... not warriors... were BLACKSMITHS... and miners... foundrymen and goldsmiths... guess that's where caves and grottoes come in . . . . .



9 9 2 / serboi {wends} in saxony known as 'white serbs'... . . . . . . 10th century ad 'belochrobat' was name of 'white croats' .. as per 'THE SARMATIONS' .. by .. sulimirski


9 9 3/ A L A N S .... also 'halani' aka 'asu' ... aka 'alauni' ... so of course would be spelled with 'chi' to give us 'xalani' or 'chalani' or 'kalani.' 'halani' or 'alauni' equals 'stone.' As in english 'hale.'
importance of 'stone' imagery in freemasonry. German 'freimaurer' for 'freemason. With 'maurer' one who builds walls, walls made of stone.


greek 'kalhlex' ... little pebbles used for aid in counting {precursor of abacus ? counting important re banking templars}. 'kaghlo' proto-indo-european for 'stone.' Proto-germanic 'hagalo' for 'stone.'


9 9 4/ in alan graves, corpses with crossed legs .... makes us think of templars buried with crossed legs


9 9 5/ herodotus claims halani once known as .. MASSAGATAE .. massagetae... '


9 9 6 / from a.d. 650, ALANS of the caucasus came under suzereinity of KHAZARS


9 9 7/ 1260's we hve POSSIBILITY christian powers HOPED crusaders from europe... 'and its activities would be coordinated with an Ilkhanid {mongol rulre of persia} invasian of syria . . . tantalizing possibvility that the mongols would become christians. - - - - - - 'the mongols' by morgan.. ... ... ratchnevsky 'genghis khan'


9 9 8/ in 1260, 'damascus was entered by the mongols and their allies, ALLEGEDLY headed by three christians ... bohemund of antioch, king het'um of cilician armenia, and helegu's nestorian general, kit--buqa'



.. ... 9 9 9/ years 1287 saw mongol ruler arghun sent nestorian monk rabban sauma to europe. the pope handed him relics to take home to persia. sauma officiated at london mass attended by england's henry first.... budge in 'the monks of kublai khan'........... - ----

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